From Unknown Mon 09 Jun 97 02:11:16 Path: usc!howland.erols.net!newsserver.jvnc.net!news.merck.com!internal.merck.com From: FirstName LastName Newsgroups: rec.music.folk Subject: Re: Cadence Calls (was Re: Are Carols Folk Music?) Date: Thu, 04 Sep 1997 15:08:36 -0400 Organization: Merck & Co., Inc. Lines: 55 Message-ID: <340F0734.539C@merck.com> References: <5u76ae$40u@shiny.i-cubed.co.uk> <5ukd6u$qva@camel3.mindspring.com> <5umnhp$sk@camel3.mindspring.com> Reply-To: firstname_lastname@merck.com NNTP-Posting-Host: news.merck.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Xref: usc rec.music.folk:124104 > > " Actually, military cadence calls may be one of the few living folk forms > >out there", so I certainly agree with you on that point. > > Must have missed your line. Sorry. > > >Your comment on the history of cadence calls is interesting - is that known, > >or inferred from other information? Is there some sort of source on this? > >When were cadence calls first recorded? > > There is a book on the subject..I think it's called "Singing Soldiers" > by a folklorist I believe his name is Niles. I'll have to check on > it. Not sure when these were first recorded if you mean mechanical > recordings. Check Library of Congress, Folkarts Division. (Maybe).As > to the inception of the calls, not sure that anyone is able to > document when these calls began. > > Cadence Calls actually date back much further than that... Baron Von Stueben, on loan to the Continental Army during the revolution, arranged the majority of what is still used today as the Manual of Drill... This is a point that new Privates, even today, must learn and remember. The Cadence, or Jody Call, finds it origins there. Singing while marching has always been popular... Yankee Doodle, for instance, could arguably be called one of the longest surviving Cadence Calls! Jody gets it's name from the lines "Jody Got My Girl And Gone" as in: Ain't no use in looking back, Jody's got your Cadillac. Ain't no use in going home, Jody's got your girl and gone. While it is true that African-American soldiers have certainly contributed to the Jody Call in various ways, so have many other "sub-groups" of the Army and Marines. It is, truely, one of the last "functional folk" genres left. It keeps soldiers in time, it passes the time, it teaches (sometimes bluntly), it is also often funny. And it's not every soldier that is good at it! There are a number of good books availible on the subject, the best I've seen called "The Jody Call," it contains a good history, and two volumes of collected calls from various services for various reasons (mostly, of course, cleaned up!). -Christian Bauman http://www.pobox.com/~camphoboken ducksquack@hotmail.com former SeaDog, 1098th US Army Waterborne The contents of this message express only the sender's opinion. This message does not necessarily reflect the policy or views of my employer, Merck & Co., Inc. All responsibility for the statements made in this Usenet posting resides solely and completely with the sender. From Unknown Mon 09 Jun 97 02:11:33 Path: usc!howland.erols.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!firehose.mindspring.com!news.mindspring.com!usenet From: hamprod@atl.mindspring.com Newsgroups: rec.music.folk Subject: Re: Cadence Calls (was Re: Are Carols Folk Music?) Date: Thu, 04 Sep 1997 16:22:29 GMT Organization: MindSpring Enterprises, Inc. Lines: 30 Message-ID: <5umnhp$sk@camel3.mindspring.com> References: <5u76ae$40u@shiny.i-cubed.co.uk> <5ukd6u$qva@camel3.mindspring.com> Reply-To: hamprod@atl.mindspring.com NNTP-Posting-Host: user-38lc8gt.dialup.mindspring.com X-Server-Date: 4 Sep 1997 16:27:37 GMT X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82 Xref: usc rec.music.folk:124088 Eric, Eric Berge wrote: >You seem to have missed the line later on in that paragraph where I said > " Actually, military cadence calls may be one of the few living folk forms >out there", so I certainly agree with you on that point. Must have missed your line. Sorry. >Your comment on the history of cadence calls is interesting - is that known, >or inferred from other information? Is there some sort of source on this? >When were cadence calls first recorded? There is a book on the subject..I think it's called "Singing Soldiers" by a folklorist I believe his name is Niles. I'll have to check on it. Not sure when these were first recorded if you mean mechanical recordings. Check Library of Congress, Folkarts Division. (Maybe).As to the inception of the calls, not sure that anyone is able to document when these calls began. >PS I have a mail order catalogue which offers tapes of this kind of thing >for sail; I've been contemplating ordering some.